Thursday, May 29, 2008

Friday, May 2, 2008

CHAT: Where have we been? Where are we going?

ROCHE: So this everybody

Let's get started

BLACK PRINCE: yip yip

diamondchester15: yes

ROCHE: the last time we all chatted it was at the beginning of these projects
5:16 PM
i think in january

So we've done a bunch of things...

the Questions project

the answers project

the questionaire

the blog

and all the in between stuff
5:17 PM
I was hoping that we could chat for a few minutes about what we've succeeded at and what we've learned...

maybe what we need to try that's new

diamondchester15: ok

ROCHE: OK.. Deep breath...

What do you guys think about the way we've tried to reach out to gary?
5:18 PM
Have you heard people talk about the posters, or have they just sort of "disappeared"?

diamondchester15: disappeared

BLACK PRINCE: i think we are making a big difference,

ROCHE: What about you Glodine?
5:19 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Well two of the buildings we have posted up at City Hall has been torn down. I dont want to just assume that it was us, but I hope it was

ROCHE: What!

Seriously?

They were torn down? When did this happen?

BLACK PRINCE: bout 3 weeks ago
5:20 PM
diamondchester15: yeah i would like to know that too

me: So is that what you meant by a "big difference" Jon?

mz.glodineclayton: I really dont kno when it happened all I kno is there now torn down since our posters.

ROCHE: woah

diamondchester15: k

ROCHE: I wanna see a picture of the empty lot!
5:21 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Sure we ca nget that for you

BLACK PRINCE: we are one of the few activists groups in Gary i hear about

ROCHE: Please do...

we'll post it.,

What other activist groups do you hear about in Gary?

What are other people doing?

BLACK PRINCE: none
5:22 PM
ROCHE: anyone else?

Wait... let's back up to talk about the buildings that were torn down...

Can you all tell me what they were like?

BLACK PRINCE: we are the only activist besides local churhes

mz.glodineclayton: I haven't really heard about any, so I wouldn't even kno the names of any other groups. It feels likk its just us byourselves trying to help the town better itself.
5:23 PM
ROCHE: We should try to learn more about what else is going on in Gary...

Maybe we can find out more about these other groups

... Let's keep that in mind.
5:24 PM
BLACK PRINCE: we will its strength in numbers

ROCHE: OK... To step back again to the buildings, tell me about them. What were the torn down buildings like?
5:25 PM
diamondchester15: i havent seen the builds so i couldnt tell you

BLACK PRINCE: they were abandoned and were poorly kept up,
5:26 PM
mz.glodineclayton: yea we should find out about other groups. Well the torn buildings I posted was at City Hall they were burned down and borded up, they looked pretty bad.

hey is any 1 there?

diamondchester15: yea

ROCHE: yeah we're still here

where were you?
5:27 PM
So besides the buildigns getting torn down, have you heard or seen anything about the posters?

diamondchester15: nothing about the posters

on my behalf
5:28 PM
ROCHE: Diamond, you're new to the group... did you see the posters around before you joined up with us?

diamondchester15: some

BLACK PRINCE: actually some of my friends said they saw them but that was it

ROCHE: OK... so some people have seen the posters... Does it mean anything to have people see them?

diamondchester15: yeah
5:29 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Not in Gary but in Chicago at Navy Pier. A lot of people likked the answered posters. I'm wondering if anyones even paying attention to the buildings. There probably afraid to look at them =, maybe we need to post them on pretty houses so that they will be seen.

BLACK PRINCE: yea it means we making a difference

ROCHE: HA

I like that idea Glodine

mz.glodineclayton: thanks Roche
5:30 PM
ROCHE: Let's talk about that. Would it help to try the other approach... Put em up on Fancy buildings.

diamondchester15: i think so

ROCHE: yea it would help
Would the posters be any different if you did that?
5:31 PM
diamondchester15: yes it would

mz.glodineclayton: Yea, probably at night so when they wake up in the morning, they could be likk WOW, are these people serious? Why aren't these buildings likk ours?

BLACK PRINCE: no mine wouldn't

diamondchester15: true

mz.glodineclayton: No the posters would be the same, but different buildings and not the same ones
5:32 PM
BLACK PRINCE: they would laugh that they buildings are better

ROCHE: You should have posted one when you went to Ben Bernke's house!

diamondchester15: yeah

i agree

mz.glodineclayton: They would probably thy to help Jonathan

BLACK PRINCE: he wouldn't care
5:33 PM
ROCHE: Yeah, probably not.

diamondchester15: its all about the money for him
5:34 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Who Mayor Clay, who cares about him, get him out of office and lets see how many abondoned buildings we would have. They could be used for a lot of important things, likk (shelters) and not for(crack houses)

ROCHE: What do you all think about our message? Are you still interested in posing questions or do you want also have some answers?

diamondchester15: rudy clay dont care at all

mz.glodineclayton: Both would be great

diamondchester15: yes i feel that we can

BLACK PRINCE: then why they not helping, now they buildings look bad, it ust aint effecting them
5:35 PM
ROCHE: How is that problems in a community effect some people and not other people, especially the Mayor?

diamondchester15: cuz i think he more worry about hmself and the money he got
5:36 PM
BLACK PRINCE: because some people suffer some people dont

diamondchester15: rudy promise people jobs

BLACK PRINCE: he aint got no money

ROCHE: Does the Mayor have to involved to get a building torn down in Gary.

?
5:37 PM
diamondchester15: i say he should be involved all the time or maybe he just domt care

BLACK PRINCE: no

mz.glodineclayton: The Mayor only helps when someone likk Barack Obama is coming. When Barack came to Roosevelt Highschool, thats when Mr.Rudy Oh So wanna be fine Clay want to fill up pot holes. What type of person does that? We've been complainging about pot holes allthis time.

ROCHE: How does it work? Does someone still own the abandoned building?

diamondchester15: some do

ROCHE: Interesting... maybe you should elect Obama mayor of gary.

jk

diamondchester15: oh
5:38 PM
BLACK PRINCE: the city still owns the lot

diamondchester15: yeah but is rudy helping

this man is trying to save a church that has been abandoned

mz.glodineclayton: I wouldn't kno, aboutthe bondoned buildings. But maybe Barack should be Mayor of Gary so Hillary could win the election. Lets see how us womn runs it!!!
5:39 PM
diamondchester15: lol

BLACK PRINCE: do we really need his help

ROCHE: OK

diamondchester15: maybe

mz.glodineclayton: Not really, but it'll help Hillary in the election

diamondchester15: are you voting for hillary

ROCHE: Jon... do you mean the Mayor's help?
5:40 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Yea

diamondchester15: no
5:41 PM
why we stop

mz.glodineclayton: Jon are you saying we dont need Rudy's help or Obama's help

BLACK PRINCE: yea we dont need his help

mz.glodineclayton: who's help

diamondchester15: who rudy
5:42 PM
ROCHE: I think it's interesting to think about what people can do without the Mayor

...

diamondchester15: yeah

ROCHE: did the questionaires suggest anything

diamondchester15: yes it

ROCHE: about how regular people can help

?

BLACK PRINCE: oh we need whoever the president' help

diamondchester15: yes to help about abandoned buildings
5:43 PM
ROCHE: So about that... Whoever is gonna be president might be in Gary anytime because of the primary.

diamondchester15: yep

BLACK PRINCE: regular people are who needs to chane the city

mz.glodineclayton: Well the posters actually asked who builds up the community and who destroys it and a lot of people said the Mayor brings it down and we build it up, but we cant blame one person, wat about the people helping him?
5:44 PM
ROCHE: Who helps the Mayor?

diamondchester15: what about them

ROCHE: Why would people want Gary to fail?

ROCHE: we dont need his help

diamondchester15: they make the money and rudy payes them
5:45 PM
mz.glodineclayton: They have a say so and a opinion, why aren't they using them and if they are and he's not listening, maybe we need to reelect real, real, real soon.

ROCHE: OH, so you think the city of Gary is corrupt. Have you heard about specific scandals and stuff, or is this just your impression?

diamondchester15: yeah

ROCHE: what you want in a new mayor?
5:46 PM
diamondchester15: to keep his promis e

BLACK PRINCE: people make the city not a mayor

diamondchester15: and let the people know he can get them a job

ROCHE: Maybe we should make campaign posters for a new mayor of Gary... an imaginary, ideal mayor?

mz.glodineclayton: yeah especially the people on the school board, hiring parents to work for them just so the parents can lie, there SICK.

BLACK PRINCE: yip yip , im diggin that

ROCHE: What would a new mayor look like?
5:47 PM
diamondchester15: im in

ROCHE: A better one?

diamondchester15: k

ROCHE: Tell me about this person, this imaginary new mayor of Gary?

BLACK PRINCE: wouldnt have a look

ROCHE: So it doesn't matter this person looks like?
5:48 PM
diamondchester15: i wouldntreally care about the looks its about if he can keep his promise to the city of gary

mz.glodineclayton: A new Mayor should probably be a woman. A good leader. I think the men of today's world isnt doing a good job I had a better life as a child. I believe those are my best memories.

BLACK PRINCE: honestly no, just as long as they are really for the people
5:49 PM
at

wat

ROCHE: OK... so we'll move past this "looks" thing...

tell me more about this imaginary mayor?

What would be the first thing this mayor does in office?
5:50 PM
diamondchester15: he got to keep his promise

ROCHE: What promises?

should he keep?

diamondchester15: whatever promise that he make to city of gary

ROCHE: OK

BLACK PRINCE: yip yip

diamondchester15: i would say the job part and trying to help other family
5:51 PM
ROCHE: Cool... what else?

mz.glodineclayton: The mayor NEW MAYOR, should have town meetings with just children speaking about how they feel Gary should be improved, then older people and then the ones that match the most it(he or she)should react on the A.S.A.P

diamondchester15: true that
5:52 PM
mz.glodineclayton: Im not talking about babies, i'm talking about middle school and up

diamondchester15: lol

ROCHE: What WOULD babies tell the mayor... we'll never know.
5:53 PM
diamondchester15: but they should have a after school thing going on for the children

BLACK PRINCE: he should knock down all unused buildings down

ROCHE: what would happen after the buildings get knocked down?

diamondchester15: nothing its a empty lot
5:54 PM
mz.glodineclayton: And do wat with the unused building have a big hole in the groung?

BLACK PRINCE: and make sure drugs and weapons stop coming in

ROCHE: OK

mz.glodineclayton: No wat he need to do is rebuil on block at a time.

ROCHE: Give me more ideas!

BLACK PRINCE: build parks
5:55 PM
ROCHE: What Aliens in the White House Drinking Wine Coolers?

diamondchester15: have a center for them to play basketball and football and much more

dont know

mz.glodineclayton: So it's going to be a million parks and no shelters, or new buildings for new jobs?
5:56 PM
me: OK... so do we have all the answers on this one, on this question of who the new Mayor should be?

diamondchester15: we need that but they not going to do that

BLACK PRINCE: did i say that

mz.glodineclayton: Now aliens could probably do a better job than Rudy and Bush combined

diamondchester15: lol

ROCHE: HA

BLACK PRINCE: no they couldnt

mz.glodineclayton: yea next question
5:57 PM
ROCHE: Seriously though, does our group have the answers?

diamondchester15: can we bring up the blackand white ball toandy

ROCHE: What's the black and white ball?

diamondchester15: something i came up with
5:58 PM
its a dance

ROCHE: what would it be?

diamondchester15: june 13

ROCHE: Tell me more
diamondchester15: well we need help making the tickets and much more

mz.glodineclayton: IdK, if we have all the answers but we need to start really getting to the mayor with questions, wether its posting them or talking to him one on one.
5:59 PM
ROCHE: OK Glodine... hold that thought...

BLACK PRINCE: we do have the answers u dig

diamondchester15: k

BLACK PRINCE: iwell i do

ROCHE: Diamond ... Yeah we could definitely do tickets... at least the designs

diamondchester15: yes
6:00 PM
ROCHE: Cool! let's do it

diamondchester15: i need all the help i can get

ROCHE: Ok..

diamondchester15: k

ROCHE: Back to Glodine and Jon...

diamondchester15: k

ROCHE: last time when we talked about this problem of coming up with answers, you all came up with the questionaire project...
6:01 PM
do you think this could have something to do with the mayor idea?

Like combine the two?

BLACK PRINCE: yea we coud do that

ROCHE: Can you think of a way how...
6:02 PM
I'd really like if we build on our past projects for new ones.

mz.glodineclayton: Yea that was really fun, we were able to talk to different people and find out how they thought we could better the town, maybe we could send them to him!(LOL) likk he cares

ROCHE: What if the results of the questionaire become the "New Mayor's" campaign posters?
6:03 PM
do you understand what i mean?

diamondchester15: i thinkit should and see how they feel

BLACK PRINCE: yea

ROCHE: Like if someone said "Aliens in the White House" is the solution for Gary...

mz.glodineclayton: You mean likk ask them how they think the Mayor should be? or who the mayor should be?
6:04 PM
diamondchester15: i think both

ROCHE: The poster would be something like"Vote for the New Mayor: She'll put Aliens in the White House."

mz.glodineclayton: Well the white house need assistance just likk Gary, so yea I believe the could be combined.
6:05 PM
diamondchester15: i guess

ROCHE: IT could be like that or the mayor poster would be like a questionaire... like a fill in the blanks mayor camnpaign poster..

diamondchester15: ok

ROCHE: I dunno... I'm just thinking...

OK one more thing...

before we finish...

BLACK PRINCE: i agree
6:06 PM
ROCHE: Is there anything you've been wanting to do at GOML that we haven't done yet? Any activist stuff you'd like to do?
6:07 PM
mz.glodineclayton: yea it could be fill in the blanks, that would be a blast, so when we post them up no one can say were just talking out the side of our necks.

BLACK PRINCE: i want to address gun volience

ROCHE: Out the side of our necks!

diamondchester15: lol

ROCHE: OK cool Jon

anything else?

diamondchester15: its a song
6:08 PM
ROCHE: oh who's it by?

mz.glodineclayton: Yea we could do what were talking about now, have a "Is Your Mayor Doing the job, if not fill in the blanks and tell me what he's really doing."

ROCHE: nice...

Diamond any ideas?

diamondchester15: nope

ROCHE: OK... that's alright...
6:09 PM
We'll leave it at that...

Thanks everyone!

diamondchester15: ok

ROCHE: Later!

diamondchester15: ur welcome

mz.glodineclayton: Gun violence it may never go any where. If someone feel threatened they just solve it with weapons especiall i they kno they cant win a 1 on 1 fight
6:10 PM
diamondchester15: true

ROCHE: Woah!

mz.glodineclayton: Alright i'll talk to you'z all later now.

ROCHE: Let's save that one for later!

diamondchester15: ok

ROCHE: Bye!

Jonathan: no if they cant fight they solve they problem that way

peace out, u digg